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Bruce was great.

My elation and sense of patriotism is making my heart pound and fill with joy.  I feel like our country will be back on track, we'll beat this virus back and once again unite.  I can picture a future with Black, White, Red, Brown, Yellow, Republicans, Democrats and Independents... all of us joining together, compromising becoming the Union our forefathers envisioned.  All of us working together to create this.  I pray this comes true.

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I wish I shared your optimism Oats.  I have lots of "hopes", I hope this is the end of lies being treated as facts (at the scale we saw), I hope this is the end of religious exemptions legalizing discrimination (this goes for churches, hospitals etc...), I hope this puts us back on the path of true climate action and health care for all (medicare for all), I hope for a justice system that is more just for the poor and minorities. 

With Biden being on the very conservative and religious end of the Democratic party spectrum, his campaign funded by large corporations profiting from a lot of bad stuff and with enough people like Ted Cruz still pandering to the worst of us, I fear the worst.

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@ralfsturm posted:

Great performance by Bruce, great voice, moving to watch.

Good luck that the Trump dynasty is not coming back! I am puzzled about how many people supported him and how many people still believe the election was stolen. Having watched the past four years from Germany it has been a real nightmare.

You're puzzled... how do you think the other half of our country feels... my half? lol

The Democratic party better wake up and not act or legislate the same ole, same ole.   It needs to move toward the middle which is what it seems like Pres. Biden is trying to do.

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Oats

@ralfsturm posted:

Great performance by Bruce, great voice, moving to watch.

Good luck that the Trump dynasty is not coming back! I am puzzled about how many people supported him and how many people still believe the election was stolen. Having watched the past four years from Germany it has been a real nightmare.



Trump dynasty play book taken from 1930s Germany, and remember, both Trump and Hitler got elected! The technique of repeating a lie over and over until people can't remember what the truth is probably old as human society. It is terrifying how easily people can be mass-hypnotized in this way.

It shows what a true mentally ill lowlife Trump really is (which most of us know), but the nightmare part is that 30% of the voters were willing to purchase his snake oil.. again. Hopefully, this is looked back on as a learning experience, and laws are passed to yank the plug in the future when POTUS loses mind mid-term.

The insurrection (which I watched live on CNN) is one of those things I will never forget. Though lives were lost, it may have shocked many Americans back to reality, and also doomed the hopes of Trump and extremist hate groups to further their cause. Many have been arrested, thanks to all the videos, and the DOJ (which includes the FBI) will be busy for many months investigating and prosecuting perhaps our nation's greatest enemies.

After the November election until Jan 19, USA had no president. This was extremely damaging to country, and surely cost many lives in a time of extreme national emergency. I pray he is convicted in the upcoming Senate trial and banned from ever holding office again, and then arrested and inprisoned for betraying the people of the United States of America.

people would jump onstage and grab me by the head and scream, ‘tilly! bootlegs!'"

@tillywilly posted:


Trump dynasty play book taken from 1930s Germany, and remember, both Trump and Hitler got elected! The technique of repeating a lie over and over until people can't remember what the truth is probably old as human society. It is terrifying how easily people can be mass-hypnotized in this way.

It shows what a true mentally ill lowlife Trump really is (which most of us know), but the nightmare part is that 30% of the voters were willing to purchase his snake oil.. again. Hopefully, this is looked back on as a learning experience, and laws are passed to yank the plug in the future when POTUS loses mind mid-term.

The insurrection (which I watched live on CNN) is one of those things I will never forget. Though lives were lost, it may have shocked many Americans back to reality, and also doomed the hopes of Trump and extremist hate groups to further their cause. Many have been arrested, thanks to all the videos, and the DOJ (which includes the FBI) will be busy for many months investigating and prosecuting perhaps our nation's greatest enemies.

After the November election until Jan 19, USA had no president. This was extremely damaging to country, and surely cost many lives in a time of extreme national emergency. I pray he is convicted in the upcoming Senate trial and banned from ever holding office again, and then arrested and inprisoned for betraying the people of the United States of America.

C'mon Dave, Don't hold back... tell us how you really feel?

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@DenverBrian posted:

I wish I shared your optimism Oats.  I have lots of "hopes", I hope this is the end of lies being treated as facts (at the scale we saw), I hope this is the end of religious exemptions legalizing discrimination (this goes for churches, hospitals etc...), I hope this puts us back on the path of true climate action and health care for all (medicare for all), I hope for a justice system that is more just for the poor and minorities.

With Biden being on the very conservative and religious end of the Democratic party spectrum, his campaign funded by large corporations profiting from a lot of bad stuff and with enough people like Ted Cruz still pandering to the worst of us, I fear the worst.



Oats is rather optimistic, his post is a breath of fresh air. It is very good for USA that Biden was ellected, for some of the reasons you mentioned. If he was as liberal as some of us are, it would be harder to make progress towards bringing America together. His experience in Congress and with foreign affairs will also serve him well.

How can we not be enthusiastic about that shitpile of executive orders he signed, only hours after being sworn in?

people would jump onstage and grab me by the head and scream, ‘tilly! bootlegs!'"

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Well, for whats its worth trump showed everyone that profesional politicians are no needed anymore to do things bad, i give him that, as well as not having people killing people around the world, i give him that too. As for fake news, well, he didnt invent anything. They are still looking for the mass destructive weapons in Iraq.

theres no good politican, being happy that Trump is out and you get back to power profesional politicians, i dont see it any better than having Trump tweeting all night long.

the only conclusion is that we all deserve all this shit, as we havent yet understood that No option is good, celebrating is naive to be polite.

@oscar posted:

Well, for whats its worth trump showed everyone that profesional politicians are no needed anymore to do things bad, i give him that, as well as not having people killing people around the world, i give him that too. As for fake news, well, he didnt invent anything. They are still looking for the mass destructive weapons in Iraq.

theres no good politican, being happy that Trump is out and you get back to power profesional politicians, i dont see it any better than having Trump tweeting all night long.

the only conclusion is that we all deserve all this shit, as we havent yet understood that No option is good, celebrating is naive to be polite.

Oscar

We all pay mucho taxes, and right now, the people of USA are suffering greatly because of the pandemic, and Trump's total fail in dealing with it. Besides getting infected and dying (we have same number of deaths as in WWII), many people lost their jobs and are short of food, rent and mortgage payments. Now that the useless sack of shit is gone, we need our government to lead us through and out of this emergency, which Biden is doing. When the Civil War happened, we had a great president to lead us (Abraham Lincoln), during the Great Depression and WWII , FDR guided us through. For some reason, people elected Trump, who can definitely be regarded as the worst president of all-time! After the Senate trial concludes, I predict criminal complaints will be filed in several States, and possibly by the Federal government. We are a Country that guarantees due process of law, and I want to see that bastard brought to justice. Halleluah!

Oh, re "fake news", he attacked our media because they were a great threat to him. Freedom of the Press is an essential part of American Democracy, to inform the people. The only source of fake news was always that jackass and his supporters. His fake news caused the Insurrection on our nation's Capitol, and the attack on the Legislative branch of our Federal Government. He cannot go unpunished for disgracing his office.

people would jump onstage and grab me by the head and scream, ‘tilly! bootlegs!'"

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When National Emergencies happen... great leaders rise to the occasion.  It's happened throughout history. In our country, the USA, it started with George Washington and the men that wrote our constitution.  Abraham Lincoln, Roosevelt and the New Deal, JFK and the standoff with Russia.  Great leaders lead in a crisis.  Trump stuck his head in the sand.  He shirked the responsibility he swore to uphold while thousands were getting sick and dying.  He got an experimental drug to help him pull through and laughed it off.  He was not a leader by any stretch of the imagination.  He brought his TV personality with him to the White House.  He was the least presidential man we ever had in office.  He's a Buffoon.

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@tillywilly posted:

Oscar

We all pay mucho taxes, and right now, the people of USA are suffering greatly because of the pandemic, and Trump's total fail in dealing with it. Besides getting infected and dying (we have same number of deaths as in WWII), many people lost their jobs and are short of food, rent and mortgage payments. Now that the useless sack of shit is gone, we need our government to lead us through and out of this emergency, which Biden is doing. When the Civil War happened, we had a great president to lead us (Abraham Lincoln), during the Great Depression and WWII , FDR guided us through. For some reason, people elected Trump, who can definitely be regarded as the worst president of all-time! After the Senate trial concludes, I predict criminal complaints will be filed in several States, and possibly by the Federal government. We are a Country that guarantees due process of law, and I want to see that bastard brought to justice. Halleluah!

Oh, re "fake news", he attacked our media because they were a great threat to him. Freedom of the Press is an essential part of American Democracy, to inform the people. The only source of fake news was always that jackass and his supporters. His fake news caused the Insurrection on our nation's Capitol, and the attack on the Legislative branch of our Federal Government. He cannot go unpunished for disgracing his office.

Well said. I don’t understand why so many see it so differently. 🤔

Cheers,

Hazy

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@Oats posted:

When National Emergencies happen... great leaders rise to the occasion.  It's happened throughout history. In our country, the USA, it started with George Washington and the men that wrote our constitution.  Abraham Lincoln, Roosevelt and the New Deal, JFK and the standoff with Russia.  Great leaders lead in a crisis.  Trump stuck his head in the sand.  He shirked the responsibility he swore to uphold while thousands were getting sick and dying.  He got an experimental drug to help him pull through and laughed it off.  He was not a leader by any stretch of the imagination.  He brought his TV personality with him to the White House.  He was the least presidential man we ever had in office.  He's a Buffoon.

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Again. Well said. I don’t understand why so many see it so differently. 🤔

Cheers,

Hazy

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@Oats posted:

When National Emergencies happen... great leaders rise to the occasion.  It's happened throughout history. In our country, the USA, it started with George Washington and the men that wrote our constitution.  Abraham Lincoln, Roosevelt and the New Deal, JFK and the standoff with Russia.  Great leaders lead in a crisis.  Trump stuck his head in the sand.  He shirked the responsibility he swore to uphold while thousands were getting sick and dying.  He got an experimental drug to help him pull through and laughed it off.  He was not a leader by any stretch of the imagination.  He brought his TV personality with him to the White House.  He was the least presidential man we ever had in office.  He's a Buffoon.

I hope my fellow Americans learn from this nightmare experience. Those that are still under his hypnotic spell need to be deprogrammed, like if they were in the Church of Scientology.

people would jump onstage and grab me by the head and scream, ‘tilly! bootlegs!'"

@Oats posted:

When National Emergencies happen... great leaders rise to the occasion.  It's happened throughout history. In our country, the USA, it started with George Washington and the men that wrote our constitution.  Abraham Lincoln, Roosevelt and the New Deal, JFK and the standoff with Russia.  Great leaders lead in a crisis.  Trump stuck his head in the sand.  He shirked the responsibility he swore to uphold while thousands were getting sick and dying.  He got an experimental drug to help him pull through and laughed it off.  He was not a leader by any stretch of the imagination.  He brought his TV personality with him to the White House.  He was the least presidential man we ever had in office.  He's a Buffoon.

Oats you are being too kind. All he cared about was trying to win the election he lost. I think he is mentally ill. I agree with all you said, then I would add what he did instead of rising to the occasion. He tried to deny the pandemic was real, then he got it, got well, and went back in denial. He is guilty of manslaughter for letting all those people die. If the republicans block his conviction in the Senate trial, I hope they all pay dearly, and by that I mean not getting re-elected. This is the most historical event since WWII, and their actions will be judged for years to come. I am so glad the dems won those 2 Georgia seats, so we can ignore them for most other important matters. They need to rejoin the real world.

people would jump onstage and grab me by the head and scream, ‘tilly! bootlegs!'"

@tillywilly posted:

If the republicans block his conviction in the Senate trial, I hope they all pay dearly, and by that I mean not getting re-elected.

@tillywillyHe cannot go unpunished for disgracing his office.

I am afraid that - as Yoda would say: But go unpunished he will.

I googled "Trump" nearly every day for the past 4 1/2 years in utter disbelief and in hope some news would come up that somebody powerful enough would stand up against him.

I still google news about that upcoming trial because I still find it hard to grasp that he will walk out of it as if nothing had happened and he will still get presidential pension and Secret Service protection. This should only be granted to a "president". He wasn't one.

and he definitely isn't one anymore. That's what has changed. Let's see what happens. St. Peter has already been notified he'll be descending towards the lower realm when his time comes, I wonder if Satan will kick him back, because he sucked at being evil too.

"C'mon Luci, let me in, I'm missing my favorite shows!"

"Make sure you bring extra coat hangers with you, the reception sucks in pergutory! Hahaha" Remember, I'm a man of wealth and taste".

people would jump onstage and grab me by the head and scream, ‘tilly! bootlegs!'"

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