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Since WOAD was a flop, he needs a theme for the shows. We complained that the earlier shows had no direction besides a "recession pack", so now he's doing something in a different direction. I think it's fine. We should be complaining about Waiting on a Sunny Day and that he's still playing the song WOAD, not the complete album performances of BTR, Darkness, and BitUSA.
To me the complete album performances are silly. Alright, BUSA I cna understand with it being a huge hit and all but BTR or Darkness is interesting for the hardcore fans and people who want to look at a newspaper cliping or magazine article and say "yeah, I've seen that entire album in the top 500 albums of all times live".

Would I like to see the shows with complete albums? Sure. There are songs from all the three mentioned albums I would love to hear live. But let's be honest about it shall we? No matter how many requests he's been doing it's a WOAD tour, not a has been artist doing the jukebox act.

Or at least I would like it to be.

People have been talking about how HT and LT was crap and had no artistic integrity or how playing the SuperBowl or doing the Walmart CD was selling out. This is unfortunately a true loss of artistic integrity and a complete and utter sellout for me.
Originally Posted By: tattooDad
The well has run dry? After great albums like D&D and Magic? He's not the kid he was in 1977 but he's still doing important stuff 30+ years laer. How many performers can say that?

I agree completely. In this decade, I would say that the only album that is subpar is Working on a Dream. Magic in particular brought back a harder rocking edge that had been missing for awhile. This tour has demonstrated the importance of playing behind a strong album that the audience supports.

The E Street Band is fine, but when this tour ends, they will have played 184 shows over a 2 year period. Of course, there's been some good and bad over that run. At the culmination, we're seeing an artist who is struggling to keep it fresh. He's getting some of it right (Darkness albums, requests, rarities [especially 5th leg Magic Tour]) and missing the boat on some of it (playing more from The Rising, Tunnel, Lucky Town, and Magic).

I'm still excited about my next show, and I probably always will (but I've only been to 4 E Street Band shows). And I think after a break for a couple of years, everyone will all be excited again.
Originally Posted By: Bobby_G
No question, he remains an outstanding entertainer.

But artistically? It's all a matter of opinion, of course. But the WOAD album/tour? Yes, I would say the well has run dry. For now, at least..


Hey you and I both know 8-10 years ago the songs on WOAD
would never have seen the light of day...however being 60
now is there any time left for "Tracks II"
Originally Posted By: Bobby_G
WOAD isn't well-suited for anything.

(Except maybe background music for a dentist's office)

What annoys me is that of the three songs I wanted to hear live from the album, two of them haven't been played (Life Itself, What Love Can Do) and the third is a train wreck on the stage (My Lucky Day).
Originally Posted By: Number6
Originally Posted By: tattooDad
The problem with WOAD is that it's not particularly well-suited for the band. It would probably work better on a solo tour, really, but that's for another time.



How about a small combo tour ??

I really wish we had something from those 2005 tour private rehearsals with Nils, Danny, Soozie, and Steve Jordan. It would be interesting to hear how various songs were arranged with the sparse lineup.
Originally Posted By: randy5554

The E Street Band is fine, but when this tour ends, they will have played 184 shows over a 2 year period. Of course, there's been some good and bad over that run. At the culmination, we're seeing an artist who is struggling to keep it fresh. He's getting some of it right (Darkness albums, requests, rarities [especially 5th leg Magic Tour]) and missing the boat on some of it (playing more from The Rising, Tunnel, Lucky Town, and Magic).

I'm still excited about my next show, and I probably always will (but I've only been to 4 E Street Band shows). And I think after a break for a couple of years, everyone will all be excited again.


Yes..."Tunnel" has been long overlooked !
Originally Posted By: ShabbyDog
To me the complete album performances are silly. Alright, BUSA I cna understand with it being a huge hit and all but BTR or Darkness is interesting for the hardcore fans and people who want to look at a newspaper cliping or magazine article and say "yeah, I've seen that entire album in the top 500 albums of all times live".

Would I like to see the shows with complete albums? Sure. There are songs from all the three mentioned albums I would love to hear live. But let's be honest about it shall we? No matter how many requests he's been doing it's a WOAD tour, not a has been artist doing the jukebox act.

Or at least I would like it to be.

People have been talking about how HT and LT was crap and had no artistic integrity or how playing the SuperBowl or doing the Walmart CD was selling out. This is unfortunately a true loss of artistic integrity and a complete and utter sellout for me.



He's the equivalent of a human jukebox right now. He's playin the classics, milking the cow and ringing the cash register. He even said on the Super Bowl thing "I have an expensive lifestyle, and I like to keep my record company & promoters happy" (or something to that effect.)

Tickets have become almost like a commodity...Darkness tickets may get a small premium in the marketplace, BITUSA tix might get a small discount, etc.

I'm looking forward to hearing Darkness Wednesday in Philly. Like many people, I'm paying $100 to specifically hear Darkness, much the same way you pay $75 for a massage, or $20 for a lap dance. In all of these cases, the customer is paying for a specific 'service', or piece of entertainment, and you pretty much know what you're going to get. I have no expectation that I'm going to hear anything new or particularly interesting at the show.

For better or worse, that's where Bruce Springsteen is right now.
Originally Posted By: Bobby_G
WOAD isn't well-suited for anything.

(Except maybe background music for a dentist's office)


Well said.
A friend of mine claims that with WOAD Bruce tried to be a "pop artist" (Please, nobody start a discussion now of what is meant by this, you all know what I mean) and miserably failed with this job.
Although I support Bruce?s attempts to try something different from Rock and Roll, some of the results are poor ... or worse.
However, I also must give credit to Bruce that he seems to have realised that the ESB is nothing but a R?n?R band (the musical abilities are clearly limited for most, except maybe Nils and Roy) and he lets the band play what they can on this tour.
Originally Posted By: Bobby_G
Originally Posted By: ShabbyDog
To me the complete album performances are silly. Alright, BUSA I cna understand with it being a huge hit and all but BTR or Darkness is interesting for the hardcore fans and people who want to look at a newspaper cliping or magazine article and say "yeah, I've seen that entire album in the top 500 albums of all times live".

Would I like to see the shows with complete albums? Sure. There are songs from all the three mentioned albums I would love to hear live. But let's be honest about it shall we? No matter how many requests he's been doing it's a WOAD tour, not a has been artist doing the jukebox act.

Or at least I would like it to be.

People have been talking about how HT and LT was crap and had no artistic integrity or how playing the SuperBowl or doing the Walmart CD was selling out. This is unfortunately a true loss of artistic integrity and a complete and utter sellout for me.



He's the equivalent of a human jukebox right now. He's playin the classics, milking the cow and ringing the cash register. He even said on the Super Bowl thing "I have an expensive lifestyle, and I like to keep my record company & promoters happy" (or something to that effect.)

Tickets have become almost like a commodity...Darkness tickets may get a small premium in the marketplace, BITUSA tix might get a small discount, etc.

I'm looking forward to hearing Darkness Wednesday in Philly. Like many people, I'm paying $100 to specifically hear Darkness, much the same way you pay $75 for a massage, or $20 for a lap dance. In all of these cases, the customer is paying for a specific 'service', or piece of entertainment, and you pretty much know what you're going to get. I have no expectation that I'm going to hear anything new or particularly interesting at the show.

For better or worse, that's where Bruce Springsteen is right now.


True, but would you not be better off listening at home and getting 5 lap dances ??
Bruce Springsteen was born 1949. Today he has to alternatives: be 60 years old or be dead. Only a totally moron would expect him to be still in his 20's. He was the artist of his generation in the 1970's and he still is. Dylan, the members of Stones, the members of Beatles, Cash, Presley - none of his peers could match what he is doing now when they were 60 years (or even 50 years)

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Hey kid, you think that's oil? Man, that ain't oil that's blood

Artist = Springsteen, Dylan, Cash, etc

Entertainer = Spears, Bieber, Gaga, Katy Perry, etc.

See the difference? Hopefully...but all artists don't always put out their best. Hell, Da Vinci painted over some of his work. I'm sure Mozart through some work in the can, and there sure are some photos Ansel Adams didn't blow up to poster sized college pinups. Oh, and I think writing your own lyrics and songs help you achieve "artist" status, as Bobby G would put it. But whatever, he can go listen to his indie artists who will end up selling out, sucking or on a one hit wonder record with the New Radicals.

Then again: one man's crucifix in a glass of piss is another's Eiffel Tower.
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