What makes a show legendary? Is Winterland a legendary show because of some sort of magic happening that night or was it legendary because it was broadcast on the radio?
DenverBrian posted:What makes a show legendary? Is Winterland a legendary show because of some sort of magic happening that night or was it legendary because it was broadcast on the radio?
A good point....only the people who doesn't know well Bruce thinks the first night of Winterland is the best show ever...but if you have heard enough bootlegs you know it's not the best show ever...not the best Darkness show...and even not the best show of that week....was just the radio show of that time...
I would love to get Seattle december 20th 1978 in soundboard quality. That show is really great. But I could think of over 100 shows I want from different tours. And I know most here can do that too.
'That chick LB "
I think my wife of 44 years will find this hilarious while our son might wonder about his parentage.
Otherwise, your post is spot on except I think the second night at Winterland may be a better performance.
LB posted:'That chick LB "
I think my wife of 44 years will find this hilarious while our son might wonder about his parentage.
Otherwise, your post is spot on except I think the second night at Winterland may be a better performance.
I think that's what rus meant.
"and not even the best show of that week..was just the radio show of that time..."
And that's a perfect example of what I mean. Put out the 16th as an Archive release. I have a list of hundreds of what I think are Bruce's best sounding boots. It's compiled through the years from all the fansites and those that compiled these lists back in the day.
I'd love to see an archive every so often that's not on the list, just sayin. 
I've felt let down by a lot of what Bruce has released over the last 15 years, but not these. For the most part, these releases have been pretty fantastic.
What makes 12-15-78 legendary? Well, obviously the radio broadcast. If 12-16 were broadcasted, or 12-20, we'd all call them legendary too. Yes, it was a great week of music. But to say that one is better than another, or that we're not "in the know" because we'd like 12-15 released is just stupid. We want 12-15 released because we grew up on 12-15. It's a radio broadcast that could use a remix by J.A. that would make it perfect.
I know the ins and outs of 12-15 better than some of his official releases, because I've certainly listened to it more times. As far as I am concerned, it is a live album of his, that I'm playing on a a second rate stereo. I'd like a remix so that I can listen to in first class. I grew up on the show (I'm 52 now, and I've had a copy of the show for well over 3 decades, as most of us have).
Is 12-16 a better show? Is 12-20? I don't know. And I don't care. I do know that the bootlegs of those shows are far inferior to 12-15, so I could never compare them. I've probably listened to 12-16 and 12-20 a handful a times in my lifetimes, as opposed to a lifetime of listens to 12-15.
But what do I know. I don't know Bruce Springsteen. I'm going on 40 years of not knowing Bruce Springsteen.
Julius posted:What makes 12-15-78 legendary? Well, obviously the radio broadcast. If 12-16 were broadcasted, or 12-20, we'd all call them legendary too. Yes, it was a great week of music. But to say that one is better than another, or that we're not "in the know" because we'd like 12-15 released is just stupid. We want 12-15 released because we grew up on 12-15. It's a radio broadcast that could use a remix by J.A. that would make it perfect.
I know the ins and outs of 12-15 better than some of his official releases, because I've certainly listened to it more times. As far as I am concerned, it is a live album of his, that I'm playing on a a second rate stereo. I'd like a remix so that I can listen to in first class. I grew up on the show (I'm 52 now, and I've had a copy of the show for well over 3 decades, as most of us have).
Is 12-16 a better show? Is 12-20? I don't know. And I don't care. I do know that the bootlegs of those shows are far inferior to 12-15, so I could never compare them. I've probably listened to 12-16 and 12-20 a handful a times in my lifetimes, as opposed to a lifetime of listens to 12-15.
But what do I know. I don't know Bruce Springsteen. I'm going on 40 years of not knowing Bruce Springsteen.
You're making my point for me. If they did release a SBD from the 16th or the 20th, you'd be able to compare them? Maybe, just maybe, you'd even say and I'm paraphrasing here... "Hot damn, that must been one hell of a show cuz the band was tight, Bruce was loose and it sounds fantastic" 
Bobby_G posted:I've felt let down by a lot of what Bruce has released over the last 15 years, but not these. For the most part, these releases have been pretty fantastic.
They're FFFiiiinnnn GREAT. No argument from me about quality. I'm talkin' selection not quality. They overcame that issue after the screwups at the start.
I just really hope we get the '81 Vets show. I have to believe that is one that is in the pipeline.
Bobby_G posted:I just really hope we get the '81 Vets show. I have to believe that is one that is in the pipeline.
I hope so too.
Oats posted:Bobby_G posted:I just really hope we get the '81 Vets show. I have to believe that is one that is in the pipeline.
I hope so too.
Ah, the holy grail.
Maybe they'll save the best for last.
If they have 300 shows to sell and they save 'Vets' for last, I may not make it. And I wouldn't be in a good mood if JL made me wait that long. I'd be forced to give him a piece of my mind. 
I think the last few releases indicate they want to get out the classic shows and toss in a surprise every so often. My guess for the next 4 shows (in no particular order) is a Rising show, Darkness show, 1976 soundboard from the soundman’s stash, and Vietnam Vets. The Vietnam Vets show is on virtually every top 5 of all time list.
If they have the Vets show in release-ish quality I have no doubt whatsoever we will see it down the line.
The best thing about the ´77 shows is that they won´t hold back if they even have just a mono soundboard of a show they want to get out there. And we know for a fact that at least a portion of the Vets show indeed exist as a stereo soundboard. That is very promising.
And those LA shows are all amazing. The last one from august 28th is at least as good as the 20th
Who thinks Vets show is the best Bruce show ever...doesn't know Bruce well......;-)
resident posted:And those LA shows are all amazing. The last one from august 28th is at least as good as the 20th
You could make a strong argument that it was the best stand they ever did
Bobby_G posted:resident posted:And those LA shows are all amazing. The last one from august 28th is at least as good as the 20th
You could make a strong argument that it was the best stand they ever did
I imagine, you'd get quite a good one too.
I thought almost every show in LA was professionally recorded. By the way, I remembered that on the second night at Winterland, Bruce forgets the lyrics to "Racing the Street" so that entire show is probably not going to be released. If we ever get Winterland it will be 12/15.