Bruce Springsteen, ESB, and George Bush

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"Because it's very clear that everyone misses the Rising & Reunion tours."

This "everyone" doesn't miss the ESB. The D & D tour forced Bruce to be both musician and singer, and not to rely on anyone else. It also gave him the opportunity to challenge not only the audience, but himself, with seldom-played material.

The SSB tour gave us something else-Bruce with a BIG smile on his face.

I, for one, would be very happy never to hear Badlands, Born To Run, Rosalita, Born In The USA, Ramrod, or Bobby Jean in any way, shape or form.

Politics, schmolitics. He's just Landau's mouthpiece.

I think you're mistaken.

[] Bruce's recent failure to sway votes to Kerry's side with the VFC Tour [/]
Though Bruce's efforts may be difficult to quantify, Kerry's defeat can't be taken to mean Bruce didn't help get out the vote. Kerry drew 59,028,109 popular votes, the second highest total in history. Reagan drew 54,455,075 votes in '84, by comparison.

[] It seems to me that his last two albums, and the VFC Tour, obviously have been politically backed. [/]
Overt political content goes back much farther than the last two albums. You have to go back at least to BITUSA, and arguably even earlier.

Your premise depends on Bruce's assessment that his political message can be most effectively conveyed either solo or with the SSB. He sells more tickets and records with the ESB, so obviously his political message reaches a wider audience with them.

[]Overt political content goes back much farther than the last two albums. You have to go back at least to BITUSA, and arguably even earlier.

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Listen to the Nov 5th, 1980 boot(Heart and Soul or Live in Tempe) when he mentions, without saying the name, Reagan's election the night before.

I distinctly remember being at shows in the 80's where he invited Pat Robertson to kiss his ass.

I know I'm not the smartest when it comes to Bruce & Politics, but I just figured I might have an interesting debate.

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Politics, schmolitics. [/]

Right - he's got the itch to play, he's got a lot of music that doesn't really fit their style, they all have lives and businesses and being in the ESB2 is a side project for all of them. At this point getting them all together to commit to recording and touring probably involves six weeks of meetings with a few dozen lawyers, agents, managers, and wives.

Except for Danny, who I imagine just needs a phone call, a bus ticket, and the address to whatever studio/rehearsal space they've booked.

[]"Because it's very clear that everyone misses the Rising & Reunion tours."

This "everyone" doesn't miss the ESB. The D & D tour forced Bruce to be both musician and singer, and not to rely on anyone else. It also gave him the opportunity to challenge not only the audience, but himself, with seldom-played material.

The SSB tour gave us something else-Bruce with a BIG smile on his face.

I, for one, would be very happy never to hear Badlands, Born To Run, Rosalita, Born In The USA, Ramrod, or Bobby Jean in any way, shape or form. [/]
Put me down as one who prefers Bruce w/ the ESB. Joad, D & D, are fine albums, but they don't have the energy I want to see in a "live" performance by the Boss. For me, the ideal concert would be Bruce and the ESB returning to more intimate, smaller club venues. How about a 30th Anniversary Darkness Tour with the ESB? Nothing post-Darkness would be played.

His best work is done with Republicans in office. You should all be voting for Republicans.

Don't you guys realise that every future tour with the ESB will become worse than the one before and so on, forget it , the best times are over and only way forward is trying to rediscover oneself and that includes low as well as high points. I don't wanna listen to all those classics anymore , they're worn out for the band . I enjoy much more Bruce trying out new things even though sometimes they will be much worse than before and other times better. And there is no point in trying to compare what he puts out now with what he once did. Take a look at your own life and see how different you are from 10,15 , 20 years ago. Move on!

[]His best work is done with Republicans in office. You should all be voting for Republicans. [/]
Darkness came out during the Carter administration. We should ask him to run again.

[]His best work is done with Republicans in office. You should all be voting for Republicans. [/]

Big fan of HT/LT are ya? Goof.

A few of the songs are ok.

Just face the fact already... Bruce is dead.

The old guy now playing the part is acting out some shitty ex-critic's version of "musical legacy".

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don't ask.

[]How about a 30th Anniversary Darkness Tour with the ESB? Nothing post-Darkness would be played. [/]

I can't imagine anything worse than that.

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The old guy now playing the part is acting out some shitty ex-critic's version of "musical legacy". [/]

You're right.

I still don't get the point of comin' on here if you're just gonna slag Bruce off. Why don't you go on Bon Jovi's board. He's a bit younger and he's been doing the same old shit for twenty years so no chance of him changing his music and taking on fresh ideas.

If we wanted to blow smoke up each other's asses about shoddy releases and bad judgment being great, we'd post here: Brucefags

But thanks for showing such clueless bewilderment. It's always good for a laugh.

I seriously just don't know why you bother, that's all. So you used to like Bruce years ago and now you don't, that's fine. There's plenty of other bands to listen too. If you don't like an album just don't listen to it, there's no point comin' on here and whingin' all the time it's not gonna turn we shall overcome into Born to Run .

I'm here to entertain a few friends & fuck with tour-istas.

Why else would anybody bother with posting on a fan forum for a has-been ?

[]I'm here to entertain a few friends & fuck with tour-istas.

Why else would anybody bother with posting on a fan forum for a has-been ? [/]

Translates as

'I haven't got much else to do with my life.'

Cool that's what I thought anyway.

BTW, great user name for a twit wanting to lecture folks about living in the past.

Fair point. But I wasn't lecturing anybody about living in the past, I just said if you don't like something new there's no point constantly moaning about it because it's not gonna make it any better. Cheer up you never know his next album might be your favourite yet!

The great thing about this place is even a Mod. who likes Styx can slag Bruce and nobody really cares.

[]Cheer up you never know his next album might be your favourite yet! [/]

Smokeyjoe once recorded an album and distributed it himself. I would love to hear that one.

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[]I'm here to entertain a few friends & fuck with tour-istas.[/]
A noble calling, if I may say so.

Kerry drew 59,028,109 popular votes, the second highest total in history. Reagan drew 54,455,075 votes in '84, by comparison.[/]

Have you been abducted also? Reagan would have buried Kerry. Reagan would have buried Clinton.

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[]Kerry drew 59,028,109 popular votes, the second highest total in history. Reagan drew 54,455,075 votes in '84, by comparison.[/]

Have you been abducted also? Reagan would have buried Kerry. Reagan would have buried Clinton. [/]

The question was whether Springsteen helped get out the Kerry vote. I said nothing about a hypothetical head to head match. Try to stay on topic. Is Bruce spurning the ESB because it's not conducive to the expression of his political message?

[]His best work is done with Republicans in office. You should all be voting for Republicans. [/]
Darkness in '78 was when Carter was in office. There goes your theory right there.

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I think you might be suffering from zemmiphobia.

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What the fuck is that thing? ICK! [/]


It's a naked mole rat.....

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