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#317171 - 3 Nov 2009 06:05 PM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: randy5554]
Pete Offline
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Registered: 6 May 2006
Posts: 2677
Loc: UK
Originally Posted By: randy5554

2008-08-23 St. Louis (Ev2 or CC, not sure which is better)


ev2, slightly, imo.

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#317172 - 3 Nov 2009 06:06 PM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: randy5554]
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Registered: 4 May 2006
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For obvious reasons, Danny's full last show in Boston '07 should be included, aswell as the one in Indy where he made his last appearance.

I have to question why we would need 5 reunion-tour shows if we don't need more than 2 Magic/WOAD-shows?

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#317175 - 3 Nov 2009 06:40 PM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: son_of_izzy]
Patrick Offline
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Registered: 5 May 2006
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100 shows? 5 each tour? 10 each tour? Christ...

Why not simply collect suggestions for everyone's favourite shows per tour and then see where it goes? If 5 shows are nominated repeatedly and everyone has a sixth or seventh show that noone else mentions, then there you are. And everyone interested can give a listen to that sixth or seventh recommendation and maybe add it to his personal favourites or not, that's what it should be all about, look here how it is supposed to work:

http://www.spl-messages.net/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/314412#Post314412

I don't give much of a **** whether in the end it will be a Top X or a Top X list, I want an overview of what are the best bootlegs including the Uber Series, the Anonymous recordings from the 70s, MarkP from the 80s etc. The interesting and fun part should be the recommendations and not the organizing of the final list.

I would propose the following:

a. Seperate threads for each tour (Pre BTR, BTR, Chicken Scratch, Darkness, River, BITUSA, TOL, HT/LT, GOTJ, Reunion, Rising, D&D, Seeger, Magic, WOAD) or at least per decade; what is "essential", i.e. 2 from Magic, none from HT/LT etc. can be decided afterwards or in the course of the discussion. It would be nonsense to limit a certain tour to 2 shows from the start even though in the end only 2 of that particular tour are considered "essential".

b. Separate thread for the rest (One-Offs, VFC, Christmas etc.) Nobody only half right in his mind would want a top 5 list for 7 VFC shows, right?

c. Read Flynn's above post and get started
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#317178 - 3 Nov 2009 07:01 PM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: CJ]
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Registered: 30 May 2006
Posts: 317
Loc: far east canada
great idea...don't tell my wife...she's wondering why i have 600 boots in cases on shelves in our living room...not to mention 5 0r 6 big hard drives
any final list should include the following, inmho

main point
stranded in the park
winterland
agora
nassau night
vets night
kc night
independence night
longest date
brixton night
freehold night
ps in la
july 1 2000...whatever the current best version is
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#317188 - 3 Nov 2009 07:47 PM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: PeterNFCa]
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The boots from the current tour will now have to include Nov 7th 2009(WIESS in its entirety) and Nov 8th 2009(The River in its entirety).
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#317192 - 3 Nov 2009 07:57 PM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: Eugene]
Patrick Offline
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Agreed. Now you tell Pete....
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#317210 - 3 Nov 2009 09:18 PM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: son_of_izzy]
Flynn Offline
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Originally Posted By: son_of_izzy
For obvious reasons, Danny's full last show in Boston '07 should be included, aswell as the one in Indy where he made his last appearance.

I have to question why we would need 5 reunion-tour shows if we don't need more than 2 Magic/WOAD-shows?


Agree on Boston, disagree on Indy. But Tampa is the one that is essential.

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#317212 - 3 Nov 2009 09:24 PM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: Flynn]
Tarheel Offline
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Registered: 4 May 2006
Posts: 1907
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Originally Posted By: Flynn
But Tampa is the one that is essential.

Yep.

Also, is there a great-sounding St. Louis 2008? Because I haven't heard it.

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#317253 - 4 Nov 2009 12:23 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: Patrick]
LB Offline
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Registered: 4 May 2006
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Agree completely with these suggestions.

One thing we need to do is get straight on the tour dates, as I posted last night.

The dates, per Earthslayer are as follows:

GREETINGS 10/28/1972 - 10/6/1973
WIESS 10/15/1973 - 03/.09/1975
BORN TO RUN 07/20/1975 - 05/27/1976
LAWSUIT/CHICKEN SCRATCH 08/01/1976 - 03/27/1977
DARKNESS 05/23/1978 - 01/01/1979
RIVER 10/03/1980 - 09/14/1981
B.I.T.USA Tour 06/29/1984 - 10/02/1985
TUNNEL OF LOVE 02/25/1988 - 03.08/03/1988
HT / LT 06/15/1992 - 06/01/1993
GOTJ 11/21/1995 - 05/26/1997
REUNION 09/04/1999 - 01/07/.2000
THE RISING 07/30/2002 - 10/04/2003
DEVILS AND DUST 04/25/2005 - 11/22/2005
SEAGER SESSIONS 04/.20/2006 - 11/21/2006
MAGIC Tour 09/24/2007 - 08/30/2008



Edited by LB (4 Nov 2009 12:47 AM)
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#317254 - 4 Nov 2009 12:32 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: LB]
IvanNF Offline
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Registered: 4 May 2006
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Loc: North NJ
BTR tour lasted till West Poiint, 1976-05-27
River lasted till Cincy, 1981-09-14
BITUSA tour lasted till LA, 1985-10-02
Rising lasted till NYC, 2003-10-04

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#317255 - 4 Nov 2009 12:39 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: IvanNF]
LB Offline
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Sorry about that. I hit the wrong key and it posted while I will was still writing. I think I've fixed the original now.
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#317286 - 4 Nov 2009 06:09 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: LB]
Mando Offline
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Can I suggest we ask the SPL ladies to manage this - if left to the men it will just end up being a cock fight.

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#317292 - 4 Nov 2009 06:52 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: Tarheel]
Patrick Offline
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Registered: 5 May 2006
Posts: 684
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Originally Posted By: Tarheel
Originally Posted By: Flynn
But Tampa is the one that is essential.

Yep.

Also, is there a great-sounding St. Louis 2008? Because I haven't heard it.


EVs version is very good. The original Bakerstuff tape is already a nice one but EVs is the one you should look for. It is definitely not in the same league as San Jose or Gothenburg from that tour, but still very good,lot of atmosphere, the most often played show from the Magic tour in my house...

http://jungleland.dnsalias.com/torrents-details.php?id=31183 incl. samples
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#317311 - 4 Nov 2009 08:14 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: Mando]
Kinsey Offline
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Registered: 7 Aug 2008
Posts: 700
Loc: Dublin
Originally Posted By: Mando
Can I suggest we ask the SPL ladies to manage this - if left to the men it will just end up being a cock fight.


Which you would definitely lose.

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#317318 - 4 Nov 2009 09:06 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: Kinsey]
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Registered: 15 Jun 2006
Posts: 1139
Loc: italy
any well-hung here ?
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#317328 - 4 Nov 2009 09:37 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: jj74]
Mando Offline
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Registered: 4 May 2006
Posts: 1801
Loc: Cybil's jungle
Originally Posted By: jj74
any well-hung here ?


Which show/tour is that from?

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#317331 - 4 Nov 2009 09:52 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: CJ]
scoper Offline
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Registered: 4 May 2006
Posts: 730
Loc: Farmingdale, Lawn Guyland
While considering which shows to include, I think it's important to represent different phases of the same tour. The two tours that come to mind in this respect are GoTJ and The Rising - early GoTJ shows (the 1st leg, Nov-Dec 95) were very very different from the final shows in Europe. Same for the Rising, where the show didn't change much early on (3 or 4 identical shows, IIRC), but by the summer of '03 it was a free-for-all.

Just a thought....

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#317364 - 4 Nov 2009 11:08 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: Patrick]
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Originally Posted By: Patrick
Originally Posted By: Tarheel
Also, is there a great-sounding St. Louis 2008? Because I haven't heard it.

EVs version is very good. The original Bakerstuff tape is already a nice one but EVs is the one you should look for. It is definitely not in the same league as San Jose or Gothenburg from that tour, but still very good,lot of atmosphere, the most often played show from the Magic tour in my house...

http://jungleland.dnsalias.com/torrents-details.php?id=31183 incl. samples
Thanks mate.

San Jose is my fave from that tour, along with Orlando. I'll give this one a go.

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#317466 - 4 Nov 2009 05:35 PM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: Tarheel]
Pete Offline
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Registered: 6 May 2006
Posts: 2677
Loc: UK
I've started to add individual threads for each tour - up to HT/LT for now, I'll add more in a week or so, don't want to be overwhelmed.

I'll also create two other threads "out of tour live performances" eg Amnesty, Christic, VFC, Bridge Benefit etc, and "non-live boots" such as Lost Masters, The Ties That Bind.

What do you think about one for "compilations" such as the Flynn boots, Nebraska Live and so-on?

Once we have our "candidates" of ten or so per tour, maybe the best thing would be to create a poll to get the list down to five.

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#317481 - 4 Nov 2009 06:39 PM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: Pete]
Pete Offline
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Registered: 6 May 2006
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I commented that maybe we shouldn't include incomplete boots, but that clearly is bollocks since that'll exclude Summer Night and Last Tango In Philly.

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