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#317038 - 2 Nov 2009 07:02 PM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: tattooDad]
Mando Offline
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Originally Posted By: tattooDad
I think that for the VFC and Human Rights tour at least, there's no reason to have five shows. Perhaps it's worth having more than five for some other tours.
I'm thinking now that maybe we set an upper limit of, say, 100 boots total and then figure out how to divvy them up among the tours, with at least a couple from every major period.


I agree. Can I also suggest that we adopt a 'standard' format for posting suggestions as it then makes it easier to compile the list eg :-

YYYY-MM-DD,Title,City or venue,Country,Version

0, not applicable or not known can be used as appropriate eg

1985-00-00,Wembley Night,London,UK,Crystal Cat

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#317039 - 2 Nov 2009 07:06 PM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: Mando]
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Let's go with Mando's suggestion. We have to use a standard.
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#317073 - 3 Nov 2009 12:54 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: tattooDad]
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Here are some suggestions to add to the master list:

Instead of "Pre 1975" I think it should be pre Born to Run. So the 1975-02/05 - Main Point, Bryn Mawr, PA should be here and not the Born to Run tour.

Born to Run:
This tour ran until May 1976 so 1976-04-04 East Lansing (Rise like the Rain (Ev2) belongs here and not the Chicken Scratch.
1975/11/24 - Hammersmith Odeon, London, UK Shit Hot and Rockin'

Darkness: I think we may need more than 5 shows for this tour. I suggest making this and the River tour ten shows.
1978/07/07 - Roxy, Los Angeles, CA (No Private Parties)
1978/089/09 - Agora, Cleveland, OH (Agora Night)
1978/09/03 - Civic Centre, Saginaw, MI
1978/09/30 - Fox Theatre, Atlanta, Georgia (Same Old Played Out Scenes)
1978/12/15 - Winterland, San Francisco, CA (Walking in a Springsteen Wonderland - Hojo Version)
1978/12/19 - Paramount Theatre, Portland, OR (Paramount Night)

River:
1981//08/20 - Sports Arena, Los Angeles, CA (As Dreams Don't Mean Nothin’) - This has to be on the final list
1981/08/28 - Sports Arena, Los Angeles, CA (Scattered Like Dry Leaves)

More suggestions to come . . .


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#317074 - 3 Nov 2009 01:07 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: LB]
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Thanks, LB!
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#317079 - 3 Nov 2009 03:19 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: NB]
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Originally Posted By: NB
Seeger Sessions

2006-04-30 New Orleans Jazzfest
2006-10-05 Verona (I prefer the full audience tape to the SBD/Aud compiliation)
2006-10-30 Globen, Stockholm (Stockholm Tonight CC)
2006-11-11 Wembley Arena, London (Wembley Sessions Second Night CC)
2006-11-19 The Point, Dublin

Notable mention for

2009-05-10 St. Lukes, London (BBC Broadcast)
2006-05-21 Hovet, Stockholm (Stockholm Session Night)

First time I'm into this thread, and I really want to nominate:
2006-05-20 Oslo Spektrum, Oslo, Norway, Bull recording.

The sound is just wonderful, and the performance is fantastic.
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#317080 - 3 Nov 2009 03:23 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: LB]
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Originally Posted By: LB

1978/12/15 - Winterland, San Francisco, CA (Walking in a Springsteen Wonderland - Hojo Version)

So you consider this superior to the CC version and the PS 25th Ann remaster? Well, for me, it is very hard to tell a difference, but I recently settled for keeping CC on my CD shelf and store the Hojo Flacs on a DVD...
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#317081 - 3 Nov 2009 03:24 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: Mando]
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Originally Posted By: Mando


YYYY-MM-DD,Title,City or venue,Country,Version

1985-00-00,Wembley Night,London,UK,Crystal Cat


That doesn't make any sense. Why scatter bootleg info?

It's YYYY-MM-DD, Location, Title (label)
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#317085 - 3 Nov 2009 03:39 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: AndreaWozzup]
NB Offline
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Originally Posted By: AndreaWozzup
I'd add surely this in the WOAD category:

The Dump That Jumps (LA Sports Arena 16/4/2009)

well imho this is the best sounding boot.. ever


I knew people would mention this show. As a boot, it is a very good recording. But, as a performance, so-so.

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#317086 - 3 Nov 2009 05:01 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: NB]
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My $.02-there should be sub-headings, i.e. sound quality, performance and historical value.

Some might fit all three-4 of the 1978 radio broadcasts come to mind. Subjective, yes; but then "essential" is subjective also. There are at least 5 boots mentioned that don't fit.

This is a veiled attempt by tD to get the lurkers out of the closet.

I hope Flynn's head isn't damaged too badly after banging it against the wall multiple times.
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#317099 - 3 Nov 2009 07:46 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: zeke]
Mando Offline
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Originally Posted By: zeke
Originally Posted By: Mando


YYYY-MM-DD,Title,City or venue,Country,Version

1985-00-00,Wembley Night,London,UK,Crystal Cat


That doesn't make any sense. Why scatter bootleg info?

It's YYYY-MM-DD, Location, Title (label)


Whatever, the importnat thing is that there is an agreed standard.

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#317100 - 3 Nov 2009 07:48 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: Eugene]
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Originally Posted By: Eugene


This is a veiled attempt by tD to get the lurkers out of the closet.



Must be donation time again.

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#317106 - 3 Nov 2009 08:17 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: CJ]
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I suggest we put TD in charge and he set the rules on formatting, etc. otherwise, total chaos.

Just name your boots, and stop fussing with the formatting.

As for Count Basie, I have yet to hear a decent boot (are there more than two?) and given the newer and better boots of the most recent play throughs, although not played on some night, would put those in place of COunt Basie.

I am sure Flynn can "compile" two of those show portions into one, to replace Count Basie

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#317108 - 3 Nov 2009 08:34 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: quante]
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And an absolute crime that Tempe was professional filmed and has yet to see the light of day. Top Ten overall.

Someone needs to pay for this. Someone, I say.

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#317109 - 3 Nov 2009 08:37 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: quante]
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And here is the link to the old Top 55 list from way back, as food for thought. Original link is dead, but BTX had reproduced it.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=3801

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#317111 - 3 Nov 2009 08:57 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: quante]
NB Offline
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Originally Posted By: quante
As for Count Basie, I have yet to hear a decent boot (are there more than two?) and given the newer and better boots of the most recent play throughs, although not played on some night, would put those in place of COunt Basie.


I can see what you're saying. Ev2's version is listenable, and for historical value it's important. I think it should be included for that alone (even if the GS #4 and Philly #2 versions of the albums were better).

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#317115 - 3 Nov 2009 09:52 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: NB]
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I just listened to 1981/05/07 'Warm Welcome in Stockholm' and 1981/05/08 'Teardrops on the City Revisited' head to head, and I really don't think WWiS sounds better. And since the second night was an even better show to begin with, my recommendation is to put that one on this list. One of the classic vinyl boots, and an absolutely mindblowing show.

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#317116 - 3 Nov 2009 10:02 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: son_of_izzy]
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Shea Last Dance needs to be on the list. Plus we have a decent DVD of that as well.

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#317117 - 3 Nov 2009 10:55 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: quante]
NB Offline
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Originally Posted By: quante
Shea Last Dance needs to be on the list. Plus we have a decent DVD of that as well.


I'd put that in Eugene's Essentials category because of the whole final Rising show/Dylan/concert length duration rather than being one of the defitive boots from the Tour. Night #2 is a vastly better show, IMO.

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#317121 - 3 Nov 2009 11:13 AM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: son_of_izzy]
Patrick Offline
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Originally Posted By: son_of_izzy
I just listened to 1981/05/07 'Warm Welcome in Stockholm' and 1981/05/08 'Teardrops on the City Revisited' head to head, and I really don't think WWiS sounds better. And since the second night was an even better show to begin with, my recommendation is to put that one on this list. One of the classic vinyl boots, and an absolutely mindblowing show.


I would not consider that one a Top 5 show for the River tour as I prefer the 1980's setlists, but definitely a "must have", if we expand the list to 10 per tour, and it would certainly make the Top 100. This show is a good example for the need to track down the best version of each show once the list is complete. Most of Ev2s releases are definitely an upgrade; for some shows, however, I think the original source or an alternative version is better than Ev2's, don't know about this one, though
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#317124 - 3 Nov 2009 12:20 PM Re: SPL's Must-Have Bootleg List [Re: kajsa89]
LB Offline
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So you consider this superior to the CC version and the PS 25th Ann remaster? Well, for me, it is very hard to tell a difference, but I recently settled for keeping CC on my CD shelf and store the Hojo Flacs on a DVD...


Yes, I prefer the Hojo. The PS doesn't include the intro to Rosalita, which is a travesty. Between the Hojo and the CC it's a tossup, but the Hojo captures the atmosphere of the show better. I figure there will be lots of these sort of discussions about this list and I don't expect agreement, but that's part of the fun.
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